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job after dismissal

how easy is it to get a job after dismissal or with no prior reference????

legend

11/03/2007 20:22:38

job after dismissal

Originally posted by legend:
how easy is it to get a job after dismissal or with no prior reference????


Erm...d'you really want an answer to that!!!

kate

13/03/2007 22:36:33

I changed my mind

I need some advice please ASAP. I just accepted a job that was offered to me 2days after interview. I immediately accepted the offer and we set a starting date which is a week after. I think they are desperate for a staff. But then I got another offer the next day and it is better (pay,benefits) than the first one. I want to turn down the first and say that I don't want it anymore but I'm worried that they will be angry at me and will not accept my change of mind. Can I change my mind just like that?

paul

13/03/2007 22:46:50

I changed my mind

Originally posted by paul:
I need some advice please ASAP. I just accepted a job that was offered to me 2days after interview. I immediately accepted the offer and we set a starting date which is a week after. I think they are desperate for a staff. But then I got another offer the next day and it is better (pay,benefits) than the first one. I want to turn down the first and say that I don't want it anymore but I'm worried that they will be angry at me and will not accept my change of mind. Can I change my mind just like that?


Briefly, once you have accepted an offer of employment either in writing, verbally, or by turning up on the first day, then it's binding. However all is not lost. Even though the employer can sue you for their financial losses incurred, it seems highly unlikely that they will do this. Why not call the employer and politely explain that you may have been to hasty in your decision and were now having doubts about the feasibility of the job. You could apologise profusely and explain how sorry you about the inconvenience caused, but feel it would be the most prudent thing to do in the long run etc etc. Politeness of course being the key word here.

And yes, they may well be angry, but perhaps they'll have the good sense to realise it is better for them if you never take the job, than if you left after starting, since the employer will need to spend more money training you up and other ways of investing in you as a member of staff.

Take the plunge and follow the job that feels right, if you get my drift.

Good luck to you. Apologies for the original flippant response.

kate

15/03/2007 23:01:09

References after dismissal

I have recently been dismissed for gross misconduct. I had an interview today for another company who requested I provide a reference from my last employer. When a potential new employer approaches my previous employer for a reference, how much information can they normally provide. For example, I know they can declare that I was dismissed, but will they mention what the reason was for my dismissal? I have been honest in my interview that I was dismissed, but did not tell them it was for gross misconduct. Will they find out?

Sarah

05/04/2007 13:53:22

References after dismissal

Originally posted by Sarah:
I have recently been dismissed for gross misconduct. I had an interview today for another company who requested I provide a reference from my last employer. When a potential new employer approaches my previous employer for a reference, how much information can they normally provide. For example, I know they can declare that I was dismissed, but will they mention what the reason was for my dismissal? I have been honest in my interview that I was dismissed, but did not tell them it was for gross misconduct. Will they find out?


yes unless you give another employee who works there as a reference but even then some companies go straight to head office to verify employment dates and most companies give a standard reference which will detail your reason for leaving/firing

legend

19/04/2007 13:03:58

finding work after dismissal

Hi,

I have recently been dimissed for gross misconduct. I just woundered how and if i will ever work again.

julienoble

01/10/2007 11:46:00

Assuming you did it (because whatever "it" is, you haven't denied it), then the honest answer is that it won't be easy, and you may have to work hard at it and accept lower pay or a different area of work (depending on what happened and what you do and all those variables) - but yes, you can make it back from where you are at. Just don't give up and don't let it get you down. You made a mistake, you paid for it. It's over. Apart from the obvious advice (get a reference from someone else, but that isn't always possible), there are things you can do to improve how you look to potential employers. Do some voluntary work (shows that you are not sitting around feeling sorry for yourself, but putting something back into the community), do a course - anything that shows that you are making an effort, and which will often provide you with another reference!

shikahra

01/10/2007 12:31:54

Gross misconduct - allegations of racist comments

I was suspended from work on 10 Sept for allegations of racism and racist comments to a fellow employee. The whole thing is made up, basically two girls who I have had recent "spats" with, they would say arguments waited til I was off on holiday for 2 weeks to claim this. I have not, and never would be racist or use the words they say I have. I have a long work history where I held some senior roles and the accusations are sensless. Plus I might add I am married to an Italian... I was faced with this when I returned to work from holiday. I was given statements to read and provided a statement of my own and then suspsended while an invesitgation was carried out. THe following day I submitted a second statement as I was under a lot of pressure the previous day and was not given very much time to digest the allegations etc. During my suspension I suffered a miscarriage which anyone can understand may have been to the amount of stress I've been going through, my doctor can clarify this. I received a letter saying there would be a disciplinary hearing for gross misconduct but due to me having a miscarriage a few days prior to receiving the letter I asked them to reschedule it - of course they were shocked and were happy to do so. My doctor then signed me off for 2 weeks as its a really emotional time. The investigation report says that the 2 girls were reinterviewed and asked to read my statement but their second statements were dated 10th Sept and the company received my second statement on 12 Sept so I'm unsure as to how my statement has been used... also there are 3 other people from ethnic origin and I told my employers they should approach these people for statements as it's relevant to which they agreed. However, again there is no mention in the investigation report that they have done this. I've seen a solicitor who has advised me to get together character references from people I have worked with in the past including those from asian origin and present a case at my disciplinary based on those. I have worked with people from all backgrounds in the last 15 years and made some very good friends, I have never been in this situation before. In fact I thought these 2 girls were "my friends" as we socialise, I lent one of them a dress to go to a wedding before (as she had never been to a british wedding and didn't know what to wear), took her to pick her car up from the garage several times - I've just been my normal helpful self. However the 2 girls are also good friends and see each other a lot outside work (they are full time I am part time). So I know that they are sticking together on this and want me out.

I'm also pretty sure that my employers are just doing the formalities and that I will be sacked. My concerns are obviously about future employment. do I go to the disciplinary and if they say they are sacking me ask them to give me the option to resign? I said I would fight this all the way but I think I'm fighting a losing battle, it's their word against mine. Having never been in this situation it's hard to weigh up the best for me. I am completely innocent in this, but when there are 2 againts 1 it's pretty hard to try and clear my name. I do have so far 6 character references from old colleagues including 2 asian colleagues.

What do I do that is best for me?

Archey31

09/10/2007 15:36:12